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List of number-one songs of 2010 (Turkey)

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Unprodded a couple of months ago as “appropriate content fork of a seemingly notable chart” but has still not been cited. As the article does not exist in Turkish Wikipedia it seems unlikely to be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 15:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: 1) this is part of a series of articles (in various countries; deleting one page in particular (as has been done after unilateral draftifications of other years) is absurd and borders disruption). 2) OK, I'll source it. But.....the person who DePRoDed this was right imv. Why, just because it is unsourced, take this particular year to deletion? The fact that this does not exist on Turkish WP is not an issue. Also please remember WP:NLIST says: "Lists that fulfill recognized informational, navigation, or development purposes often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability.". Mushy Yank (talk) 19:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank OK I did not know that NLIST said that about lists. So does that mean the “unsourced” tag should be removed from this article and similar ones such as List of number-one hits of 2006 (Turkey), 2007, 2009? If so what about the other uncited lists on https://bambots.brucemyers.com/cwb/bycat/Turkey.html#Cites%20no%20sources ?Chidgk1 (talk) 19:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Note that NLIST indicates in the following sentence that, still, presenting sources is more than recommended! In general, the unsourced tag should not be removed until sources are added but the notability of such lists that are part of a set is not an issue, I would say. That list you link is very long and in theory, again, sources should be added but one can only decide whether the page seems notable without sources present on a case by case approach. I'll add sources to the 3 pages you listed but one person cannot source all unsourced pages even if that is only Turkey-related articles. Mushy Yank (talk) 20:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, in fact, yes, the Unsourced tag should have been removed because there was a source in the EL of all 4 articles, with a link indicating "previous number ones may be found via archive.org". And the template's doc indicates: "You should only add this template to articles that contain no citations or references of any kind." Which was not the case. ImproveRef or RefExist or any other tag would have been OK. The Unsourced tag, as well as the notability tag, indicate extremely serious issues and should not be used lightly if easy means of verification and available sources exist. Thanks. Mushy Yank (talk) 20:28, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Trail Blazer (album)

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One of many uncited Turkish albums which I mentioned to the albums project last month this one was tagged uncited 15 years ago. I searched but there are others with the same name. Unfortunately the Turkey project is only semi-active but hopefully someone from the metal project will know better than me if it is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I was not able to find material in reliable music magazines, searching for both their band names. I think I could be able to write up one of their later albums, but not this one. I did get hits in Google Books. Geschichte (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anadolu Efes S.K. past rosters

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Article was tagged uncited 4 years ago and does not exist in Turkish. As the main article includes info such as notable players perhaps this uncited article does not have any notable info which is not already in the main article. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I could see a list of players, if sourced, but rosters of each individual year is not a thing I think we do. Some have been up for AFD previously. Maccabi Tel Aviv B.C. past rosters was kept in 2008, whereas C.D. Primeiro de Agosto past squads was deleted in 2015. I think that's telling of how the demands in deletion discussions have evolved. Geschichte (talk) 16:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Gaita-de-fole coimbrã

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Completely unsourced article, and I cannot find any good sources on the instrument. All I can find are youtube videos, some facebook posts, a few forum posts, and one website called "folkworld.eu" (link:http://www.folkworld.eu/68/e/wkpf.html). Gaismagorm (talk) 14:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Turpachita

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There is no such village in Kyrgyzstan. Most likely, they meant a mountain pass Турпачаты. Mitte27 (talk) 11:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to Osh Region. Article cites no sources. Available sources on the internet do not seem to establish notability and therefore fails WP:GNG TNM101 (chat) 11:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might be more correct to redirect to the article Pamir-Alay. Mitte27 (talk) 11:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at OpenStreetMap shows a hamlet with the name турпачаты, though it's not very large and I can't otherwise confirm it. GNG also isn't the guideline for villages - we just need to prove they exist, which will be hard in this instance. SportingFlyer T·C 07:27, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Muthappan Kavu

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No sources for this village itself since 2009, possibly needs a rename if not a delete? I can find lots of references to the festival and to Muthappan, but the only one I can find for this village in particular is this wiki article. Smallangryplanet (talk) 11:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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S. V. S. Rama Rao

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Unsourced since January 2009. The only source I can find for him - at least in english sources - is IMDb, which is not considered RS on its own. Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:54, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mike Weinberg

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This article does not have significant coverage for his acting career and does it fail synthesis material. Absolutiva (talk) 10:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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George M. Murray (scientist)

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Potentially notable academic. Currently fails WP:NPROF. Been on the cat:nn list since 2010. No indication of significance but could be. scope_creep^Talk 09:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Darragh Moriarty

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As a city councillor, he doesn’t satisfy the notability standards at WP:POLITICIAN, nor do I see evidence of WP:SIGCOV, either from the references here, or a general internet news search, outside of his candidacy. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom; clearly fails WP:POLITICIAN and likewise, I can find no WP:SIGCOV. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - non notable local politician, fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Spleodrach (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Non notable city councillor, failing WP:NPOL. Can't see any viable alternative to deletion as Moriarty isn't seen as having a great chance at winning in the upcoming general election, nor is he going to become Lord Mayor any time soon (though part of the pact, Labour apparently don't get a year in the chair>?) ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: he's more notable than the average DCC member because he's involved in the Labour GE campaign on a national level, which is why I created an article for him. It's a small enough parliamentary party for that to make a difference. He's not guaranteed to win but he's not an enormous long shot either - if that's not enough then I submit serenely to your collective wisdom.Snoooooooopywaves (talk) 11:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hazel De Nortúin

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As a city councillor, she doesn’t satisfy the notability standards at WP:POLITICIAN, nor do I see evidence of WP:SIGCOV, either from the references here, or a general internet news search, outside of her candidacy. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 09:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - non notable local politician, fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Spleodrach (talk) 10:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. De Nortúin doesn't meet WP:NPOL as a city councillor. My only possible alternative to deletion would be to draftify until after the election as she apparently stands a decent chance at holding Bríd Smith's seat in Dublin South Central, but I dunno if that quite meets WP:DRAFTREASON point three. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 10:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom or Draftify per Ser! - draftifying is a possible outcome from a deletion discussion and it would seem reasonable to not delete if, as you say, she does stand a reasonable change at being elected. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep because she's a nationally prominent local politician and easily the most prominent PBP representative who isn't already a TD. She was at their manifesto launch e.g. and there's been another profile of her published in national media since the article was published. (https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/11/20/i-have-two-kids-who-are-working-in-the-civil-service-and-they-cant-afford-to-buy-a-house-candidate-told-on-doorstep/). Could tolerate draftifying if you're trying to hold the line on local reps. Snoooooooopywaves (talk) 11:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"She turned up to a party election event during an election" is not the compelling argument for notability you think it is... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 11:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify seems fair enough. She has about evens chances of holding the seat for PBP, and it saves the trouble of a fresh start next week if she does. In response to Snoooooooopywaves, coverage of a candidacy during an election doesn’t satisfy notability under WP:POLITICIAN. She is being promoted by PBP because they want to hold Smith’s seat. If she does so, we can restore the article from its draft form. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 11:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

House of Blue Fire

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Fails WP:GNG prod opposed Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 06:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Doctor_Who:_The_Monthly_Adventures#2011 or delete. I wasn't able to find anything to establish that this was notable. The overall Monthly Adventures series is notable, but not all of the story arcs are independently notable of the main series. To be honest, the majority of these are likely not independently notable. Doctor Who is a wonderful, notable series but so much content is put out that most outlets (that Wikipedia would see as reliable, notability giving sources) would not be able to keep up with the releases and still cover other content. Doesn't mean that some of them might not gain coverage enough to be notable, but it does make it far less likely. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 13:36, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Victorian bias in the Australian Football League

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Propose to delete or WP:ATD-I this article. The topic is not without merit, but from the moment it was created until now, it has been more of a grab-bag of unrelated WP:OR points, WP:SYNTHs from statistical sources, presentation of various editorial news articles opinions, and reads like an essay (or, in places, a diatribe). I believe it is at a standard where it shouldn't remain in the mainspace, and can't be brought to a mainspace standard without being abandoned and rewritten from scratch. Aspirex (talk) 09:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Miss You (film)

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This is about an unreleased film which does not satisfy film notability. Unreleased films are only notable if production itself has received significant coverage by reliable sources. A review of the sources shows that they are all announcements or press releases about the film or its songs. The first five references, in four different media, are essentially identical, which is best explained that they are the same press releases to different media.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	The Hindu	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
2	cinemaexpress.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
3	thesouthfirst.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
4	www.business-standard.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
5	The Hindu	Same as 1	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
6	timesnownews.com	States that movie will be filmed.	Probably.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
7	Times of India	Passing mention of a song.	Maybe	No. Passing mention.	No	Yes
8	cinemaexpress.com	Press release about a song.	No.	No	Yes	Yes
9	cinemaexpress.com	Another press release about a song.	No.	No	Yes	Yes
10	news18.com	An announcement about the film.	Probably.	Not for this purpose.	Yes	Yes

There is also a draft; the draft and the article are by different authors. The information in this article and in the draft can be merged in the draft, and the draft can be submitted, with reviews and other quality sources, when the film has been released and reviewed. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Because release is announced for late November, I would normally have suggested to keep this and I would have merged the draft into it .....but there are TWO drafts Draft:Miss You Movie (created yesterday, just before the article, same creator) and Draft:Miss You (film) by User:Gowthamaprabu (created 21. 10); the latter was declined by the nom. Read the following comment: "Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Miss You (film) instead.", said the nom of the present AfD when declining the page.....which, if I was the page creator, would make me think, the page discussed here is not concerned by deletion! Still as Gowthamaprabu's Draft was the first page to be created, I consider it should be the starting point so I suggest a merge of all three pages into Draft:Miss You (film). Premise is known, actors are notable, coverage for verification exists, so even if it's the other way around, I won't be shocked but declining the Draft and inviting its creator to expand a page and, an hour later or so, taking the said page to AfD is a bit confusing.Mushy Yank (talk) 22:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello @Robert McClenon and @Mushy Yank! Hope you're both doing well! I wanted to provide some context regarding the article Miss You (2024), which covers the upcoming film set for release at the end of November 2024. As mentioned transparently, I have been commissioned by the producers to edit and create content for this article, ensuring accurate representation of the movie. I’ve Confirmed that the official release date is November 29, 2024, though due to a lack of publicly available citations, I haven't specified the date in the article itself. I’ve included all available information with relevant citations, and I believe the content is accurate and complete as presented. If possible, I'd suggest we retain the article and continue to improve it together. We could even consider merging it with Draft: Miss You (Film) by User:Gowthamaprabu to consolidate information. Meena1998 (talk) 07:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Draft:Miss You (film) since the film's release is near, let's wait. Once it hits theaters, it is expected to get more coverage and critical reviews. You can then update the page and publish it through the AFC route. For now, let's merge its content into the declined draft:).Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree to merge Miss You (film) article with my draft Draft:Miss You (film). Gowthamaprabu (talk) 03:12, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mahbub Morshed

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Not seeing significant coverage from multiple independent reliable sources, the subject fails to meet WP:GNG. Additionally, their books are not notable, thereby failing to meet WP:AUTHOR. GrabUp - Talk 08:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Foysal Ahmed Shanto

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This is clearly a case of WP:BIO1E, as the sources cover the subject only in relation to the 2024 Bangladesh protest where the subject died. GrabUp - Talk 08:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lingayat Vani

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This article is a POV fork of Lingayatism, created using WP:SYNTHESIS of poor sources to glorify Vaishya Vani caste while conflating it with a different community (Lingayats). Most sources and even most of the article only concerns Lingayats and not Vanis. - Ratnahastin (talk) 08:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Universidade Franciscana

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Ths doesn't seem to meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG, or have a good WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 08:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cartoys

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No evidence of notability Maxvolt (talk) 07:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I have done research across various sources to improve this article but I was unable to find any evidence this company meets the required notability criteria. The company does not appear to have received significant attention in reliable, independent secondary sources. The available sources are primary sources, press releases, company profiles, and promotional material, which do not count towards demonstrating notability. Maxvolt (talk) 08:01, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per well detailed nomination rationale which is consistent with my own findings. Mekomo (talk) 10:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Brian Ogola

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Procedural nomination per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 12#Brian Ogola. Article was BLARed in 2019 because it was "too outdated" (according to the editor who redirected it). CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe keep. I do think there is a credible claim to his passing WP:NACTOR for multiple notable roles. From looking at his IMDB he actually has some lead roles in content available on Netflix (for example https://nairobiwire.com/2020/10/meet-poacher-actor-brian-ogola.html ). The trouble with African media is the press is often ridiculous in its puffery so finding usable sources is often challenging because many of the newspapers get discredited at AFD for being over the top promotional. Based on his work, I say he passes an SNG, but based on sourcing I don't think we will be able to find WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 07:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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APFIC Objective and Key Achievements

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Entire article is written like a promotion. Only source mentioning APFIC is its own page and a document at fao.org, its parent organization. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 06:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. It has an entry in this Dictionary, this Dictionary, and an entry beginning on page 627 in International Organizations and the Law of the Sea of which only the first page is viewable. The Encyclopedia of Ocean Law and Policy in Asia-Pacific takes the time to document when various countries became members of this organization. It's organized by nation, so the coverage is across multiple pages. I think this highlighting within an overview of each country indicates some importance. There is also some coverage in [1], [2], Best.4meter4 (talk) 07:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The J-Gos

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I do not think that this hyperlocal band meets NCREATIVE or GNG. I see one review in a hyperlocal newpaper, and little else of substance. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 10:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. I'm torn on this one. On the one hand, we have many critical reviews in local press (many fromThe Argonaut in San Francisco and Venice Vanguard and Los Angeles Village View in Los Angeles) which arguably meet WP:SIGCOV and criteria 1 of WP:NBAND. On the other hand, the coverage is all to events which could be seen as too local (ie small venues, etc), and we should maybe not consider it significant on that basis. However, there's also the fact that the band randomly did make it on Papua New Guinea's national music chart which would mean it passes criteria 2 of WP:NBAND. In the end this throws it over to the keep side for me.4meter4 (talk) 07:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wagerweb

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Poorly sourced, and a search for sources sufficient to save this article was not successful. Just the occasional sports betting churnalism/SEO, and a few passing mentions nearly 20 years ago about hurricane betting. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 06:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The Oxford Handbook of Sports Economics Volume 2 list it as one of only eight active Sportsbooks in the world. At a bare minimum, we should at least selective merge this to Sportsbook.4meter4 (talk) 06:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The linked sources says that it's one of the eight sources that make up the data that Sports Insights presents to their subscribers. There are far more than eight active sportsbooks in the world, and there certainly were back then as well. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 11:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete An utterly passing mention in a 12 year old reliable source is insufficient to establish notabilty in 2024. Wikipedia should not be a guidebook to non-notable gambling websites that lack significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Only notable entities should be mentioned in an article like Sportsbook, which is highly susceptible to spam and promotional editing. Cullen328 (talk) 10:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The Spectre of Lanyon Moor

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fails WP:GNG unsourced since 2013 Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Here is one good source: [3].4meter4 (talk) 07:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sandeep Johri

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References do not demonstrate significant coverage by multiple sources. Brandon (talk) 07:01, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shalabam

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Fails WP:NFILM. No reliable reviews from Rediff.com and Sify.com [4]. The only 2 reliable sources are passing mentions. DareshMohan (talk) 06:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Malayalam films of 2008, a standard solution for articles about released films when cast is notable, content verifiable and the director and writer have no page. Preserves history and can be reverted if sources are found. Thanks (NB- the film is listed there).-Mushy Yank. 10:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There is nothing in Google search result to show that this passes WP:NFILM. The two sources in the article gave just single mentions each and with nothing in search result, there is nothing to sustain it. Mekomo (talk) 10:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ewomazino (name)

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No evidence of notability. The purpose of name indices is to disambiguate articles on people with the same name. With one person using it as a middle name, and one link to Wikidata (which shouldn't be there per Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 204#New RFC on linking to Wikidata), this doesn't serve that purpose. And it's completely unsourced. Part of WP:ANI#Nigerian name project * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. This is somewhat frustrating. I totally get we need WP:SIGCOV here if we aren't actually going to have a proper disambiguation or navigation page. At the same time, the ANI thread is heartbreaking because the Nigerian edit-a-thon is simply wanting the English wikipedia to include common Nigerian names in our coverage. It does feel a bit like us living up to our WP:SYSTEMICBIAS. I wonder if a List of Nigerian names page could be created instead of all these individual name pages that the project could work on together instead. We can then do a redirect of all these various pages to that list.4meter4 (talk) 05:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Annette Jones (architect)

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An orphan article. An unremarkable career that does not meet WP:ARCHITECT. Source 1 is merely a registration database, sources 3 and 5 are primary. LibStar (talk) 05:38, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Not seeing a notification of the creator, MurielMary, who might be able to explain why they believed notability requirements were met. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Passes criteria 4c of WP:CREATIVE and WP:SIGCOV per the source by Cox and Women in New Zealand Architecture: A Literature Review in Society of Architectural Historians, Australia and New Zealand. This latter journal highlights that Jones was specifically featured in prominent exhibitions in New Zealand women architects and was featured prominently in the November-December 1993 issue of Architecture New Zealand magazine.4meter4 (talk) 05:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets criteria 1 of the architect notability criteria: the person is regarded as an important figure, as evidenced by inclusion in Cox's work. MurielMary (talk) 08:36, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ivan Rijavec

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Marked for notability concerns since last year. Created by a single purpose editor. Limited google news hits, 2 of them being non-independent architecture press. 1 line mentions in google books. Fails WP:ARCHITECT. LibStar (talk) 05:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV per the offline sources already cited in the article. A WP:BEFORE shows there are tons of sources in google books, and a basic google search yielded articles like [5], [6], etc. Google scholar also had a biographical entry in an encyclopedia of Australian Architecture which you can accesss: http://hdl.handle.net/10536/DRO/DU:30041742 Best.4meter4 (talk) 06:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please tone it down a notch. LibStar (talk) 06:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the sake of getting along, I redacted the comment that bothered you. I thought you might prefer that instead of striking it. Best.4meter4 (talk) 08:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not bolding a vote because there's two options here, as the vote is really "not this article as it is" - it's written very promotionally and in a completely non-encyclopedic tone. I'd either delete on WP:TNT grounds explicitly allowing re-creation, or completely strip the article down to nothing if it is kept. A WP:BEFORE search shows he is likely notable. SportingFlyer T·C 08:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

National Association of Colleges and Employers

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Unsourced article from 2008 about a professional association. A WP:BEFORE search reveals scattered media, e.g. [7], covering the organization's annual jobs survey, but such coverage is not focused on the organization itself. Sdkb ^talk 05:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Raw ("Hopsin" album)

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Contested draft. Duplicate of Raw (Hopsin album) which was WP:BLARed last year due to a lack of notability. Pinging @QuietHere: the editor who performed the BLAR on the previous article. CycloneYoris ^talk! 04:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Hopsin discography. Lack of usable sources on the album. Ss112 14:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Fails WP:NALBUM. Raw (Hopsin album) already exists, so no need for a redirect. मल्ल (talk) 17:41, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Unlikely search term when properly formatted title already exists (if it is redirected then it should go to Hopsin#2010–2011: Success with Funk Volume and Raw to match with Raw (Hopsin album)'s current target). Shows no amount of notability more than the prior article did. Surprisingly, despite the ping, I appear not to have received a notification for this. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 01:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete since this was an attempt to sneak an unwanted article into Wikipedia - both by way of the strange title and the unilateral draftification. Geschichte (talk) 10:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barak Rosen

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Fluff piece about non-notable businessperson. Cannot find any significant coverage of the article's subject, completely failing GNG. All sources in the article are about his company's acquisitions or incidental inclusion in lists of businesspeople. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 03:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi user:Dan Leonard,

I have three big profile articles about Barak in Hebrew. Since he is Israeli, can I add them to the article? And will it suffice?

כבר לא שני מתווכים מרעננה: "הם רוצים להיות השחקנים הכי גדולים, רוזן מוכן להתאבד על עסקות" (דה מרקר)

https://www.themarker.com/realestate/2021-11-05/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/0000017f-e3c4-d9aa-afff-fbdcdc580000

הילדים הרעים של שוק הנדל"ן הכפילו את שוויים ב־2016 (כלכליסט)

https://www.calcalist.co.il/markets/articles/0,7340,L-3706754,00.html

הכל בכל מקום בבת אחת (כלכליסט)

https://newmedia.calcalist.co.il/magazine-12-05-22/m01.html

עידו כ.ש. (talk) 05:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If the sources pass WP:SIGCOV then they might be acceptable; however, it's worth noting that an article on Rosen has been repeatedly deleted on the Hebrew Wikipedia and is now salted. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 19:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe they do comply. And I’m aware that the Hebrew article was deleted before, but it was done years before most of the coverage about him was published, he also gained more reputation since. Moreover the articles were written very poorly, I believe that if they’ve written them properly that article would stay up. Many businessmen with much smaller significance have articles about them in addition to their company, so the only reason I can imagine Rosen’s article caught attention was the writing’s quality. I might invest in a more appropriate Hebrew article for him soon. עידו כ.ש. (talk) 15:18, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep. It's hard to judge on these foreign language sources because some of them are behind paywalls. The ones I can see look like they do. I'm inclined to just WP:AGF the foreign language sources behind pay walls and trust that they are accurately reported as containing WP:SIGCOV.4meter4 (talk) 05:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:AGF doesn't apply to " I'm inclined to just WP:AGF the foreign language sources behind pay walls". LibStar (talk) 06:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There was a topic of Barak Rosen in Hebrew Wikipedia and this topic was deleted because there was no encyclopedic value. IdanST (talk) 10:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alan White (DJ)

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Advertorialized WP:BLP of a radio DJ and a spinoff article about his purported "television show" that may or may not ever have actually existed, with neither article properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for media personalities or their shows.
As always, broadcasters are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show evidence of WP:GNG-worthy third party coverage and analysis about them to establish that they've been externally validated as significant by somebody other than their own public relations agent -- but the BLP is "referenced" to one deadlinked unreliable source, one discogs.com directory entry about somebody else who isn't Alan White and one glancing namecheck of Alan White's existence in a newspaper obituary of somebody else who also isn't Alan White, absolutely none of which constitutes support for the notability of Alan White.
And meanwhile, the "television show" article is actually serving primarily as a coatrack for a largely reduplicated summary of the BLP, and not actually saying even one word at all about a "television show" until the very end, when it finally reveals that the "television show" that's posing as the article's nominal subject is "currently in pre-production" -- except it's said that since the day the article was created in 2011, and the article has never been updated since then with any evidence that the show ever actually started airing. And it's also based entirely on unreliable sources that aren't support for notability, with absolutely no GNG-worthy coverage about either Alan White or the "show" present there either.
Nothing stated in either article is "inherently" notable without GNG-worthy sourcing for it. Bearcat (talk) 05:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. I'm getting a headache on this one trying to locate sources. Too many people named "Alan White", and several active in music.4meter4 (talk) 05:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Daveed (2025 film)

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Unreleased film, nothing especially notable about the production, therefore does not meet WP:NFILM, specifically WP:NFF, as an as yet unreleased film. Should have remained in draft space but has been moved back to main space, so deletion is required. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I can see many upcoming movie articles on Wikipedia, and as an editor who enjoys creating and editing movie articles, I’m particularly focused on the Indian film industry. My goal is to reach 10,000 edits and become a strong contributor to Wikipedia. Recently, I encountered a deletion nomination for an article on an upcoming film, even though its release date has been announced. I removed the "unreleased" category and added the "upcoming films" category since the shoot and post-production are complete. I’ve verified all the data through news articles, and everything seems accurate. This is the first time I've faced a deletion nomination for a film article, and I’m feeling a bit helpless. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Arjusreenivas (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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And regarding the notbaility of prodcution, The film was distributed by Century Films which is the distributer of Malaikottai Vaaliban, Perumani and John Luther etc. These are the details I got from the producers social handles. Arjusreenivas (talk) 18:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Notability" would rather be established through sources independent of the subject. (Not saying that what you are saying is not true nor that it is not interesting) Mushy Yank (talk) 22:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thank you for your Participation in this Discussion, Please Check sources, I think the article have more than enough sources. Arjusreenivas (talk) 03:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing about the production, as stated, is notable. Everything is very, very standard. WP:NFF is clear: Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines. Basically, you should not be creating articles in main article space about the vast majority of films that have not yet released. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, This article covers a film that's set to release in the next two months. Regarding production details, I can only reference publicly available news articles and interviews. Given the popularity of this film in India, I believe many people here are already aware of its production background. I kindly request someone from India to assess the notability of this article, especially regarding its production and other key details.

I welcome everyone to expand the article and contribute with verified information. I’m also sharing data I’ve gathered from media sources to help make this a comprehensive and accurate article. Please feel free to edit for clarity, correct any English errors, and improve. Arjusreenivas (talk) 11:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Antony_Varghese#Films: listed there; given existing coverage, the fact that filming is wrapped, the cast, notable and details about productions are verifiable, I am not opposed to Keep if other users agree it can be kept (opposed to deletion, not necessary in the present case). Mushy Yank (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Mushy Yank. Yes, I believe this article is relevant to keep on Wikipedia because the release date has been announced, and the film has already wrapped. Therefore, deletion would not be the right decision. Thank you for your comment. Arjusreenivas (talk) 03:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect would be fine, until the film has released. I mean, draftifying would have worked, too, but... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, The article meets 4 out of 5 of the WP:NFF production guidelines. Enough information is available to support article. Also it can be classified under the "2025 films, Upcoming films, Upcoming Malayalam-language films" category. Arjusreenivas (talk) 15:42, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What "5 production guidelines" are you talking about? There is nothing unclear about WP:NFF: films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let me finish the sentence you're referring to, as it seems you might have missed it. The guideline states: "films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines." Out of the five guidelines of production: Development, Pre-production, Production, Post-production—four have been covered. The only stage not fully met is Distribution. That's why 4 out of 5 criteria for an unreleased film to qualify for an article have been fulfilled. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 21:51, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The film has successfully completed its production phase, and reliable sources confirm that it is currently in the post-production and marketing stages, with only the final release pending. The project meets 4 out of 5 of the WP:NFF production guidelines. Sufficient information is available to justify an independent article, and it can be classified under the "2025 films, Upcoming films, Upcoming Malayalam-language films" category.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 07:35, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your input. I believe there are no notability issues with this article, so it should be retained. From my review, the movie is scheduled for release in two months, and it’s not from a new production or featuring unknown actors. Thank you for your contribution. Arjusreenivas (talk) 15:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - We have the typical general announcements, churnalism, NEWSORGINDIA, etc., but no significant coverage such as bylined reviews. Nothing notable about production. Draftify would be a good WP:ATD. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. The article was draftified once, and so shouldn't be draftified again, but WP:IAR. The danger, of course, is that it would just be moved back to article space again. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, really don’t see why we wouldn’t. Has a release date. Hyperbolick (talk) 09:00, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdul Hannan Masud

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Sources do not show in-depth coverage needed for WP:GNG. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 02:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This needs a review by Bengali-speaking editors. Several sources do not appear to mention the subject, but are used to support statements about him. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The article is in development, and the person is worth notable. Need some time to add citations. Ahammed Saad (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: as per @Ahammed Saad Bruno 🌹 (talk) 17:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've read the entire article. In the second paragraph of the beginning, a statement by Abdul Hannan Masud (the subject of the article) from a Facebook video has been slightly modified and cited with a Facebook link. Again, what is written about the person in the third paragraph is not supported by the referenced news link. The news link discusses his speech. In the Early Life and Education section, several links are cited, which are inconsistent. In the Activism section, although some references align, a lot of personal opinions have been used. C⚛smLearner ^💬🔬 18:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typical of cite bombs. I will withdraw my nomination if the creator can present three in-depth coverage from reliable sources.Vinegarymass911 (talk) 19:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Sohan61 it would be very helpful if you could translate the title of each source that isn't in English and set the trans-title attribute of the citation template accordingly. Please also set the website= attribute with the English name of each source website, so we can more easily see what these citations are. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 12:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Radwell

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Fails WP:GNG. Most of the sources are about his company, Canouflet, with few pass mentioned in some journals. Ibjaja055 (talk) 03:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi lbjaja055,

Thank you for your careful review and dedication to Wikipedia’s standards. I do want to acknowledge this is my first attempt at creating a biography for a living person, so I may not be fully versed in all nuances of the guidelines. However, I’m committed to refining the page to meet the standards set by WP and would welcome any guidance on improvements. I do respectfully disagree with the proposed deletion and would like to clarify the sources used and their relevance.

The assertion that “most of the sources are about his company” is not entirely accurate. While there are a few references to his company, Camouflet, they represent a minority of the sources and were included primarily because they are recent publications. The majority of references come from reputable scientific journals and independent media outlets that focus on his personal contributions to the field, particularly his pioneering research during the COVID-19 pandemic.

These sources highlight his impactful discoveries and advancements, which have had a verifiable influence on public health and scientific understanding during a critical time. His work meets the notability criteria outlined in WP

through these reliable, independent publications, which underscore his standing in the scientific community and the lasting significance of his contributions.

I hope this clarification provides a fuller picture of the subject’s notability, independent of his company, and trust it will support reconsideration of the deletion proposal. Thank you again for your commitment to maintaining Wikipedia's high standards. Stichodactyla (talk) 19:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments: 3 of the sources cited (3, 6, and 10) are basically press releases. Some of the others are either primary sources or more directly about the company, with only a passing mention of him. Bearian (talk) 03:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bearian,

Thank you for your review and for bringing up these concerns. I've removed the majority of sources that seemed like press releases. There are, however, additional independent, reliable sources. I'm committed to editing, including re-evaluating cited sources and removing or reworking content that may appear overly promotional. Stichodactyla (talk) 02:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete The references appear to be about topics separate from the subject, as stated above. I was unable to find additional references. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 15:09, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hewa S. Khalid

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As far as I can see, there isn't a single secondary reliable source independent from the subject to count towards the subject's wikinotability (actually, most if not all of the sources were created by the subject). Can't find a passing criteria from WP:NACADEMIC nor any significant independent coverage for WP:GNG. Aintabli (talk) 01:58, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is also an apparent WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY, and it was previously tagged as such before its prompt removal by the article creator. Aintabli (talk) 02:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I do not believe that the subject meets WP:PROF at this time per GS profile,[8] though perhaps someone more familiar with Kurdish studies could comment. Espresso Addict (talk) 02:56, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Marshall James

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: as a former WDF World Championship runner-up and World Masters semi-finalist, there appears to be a great deal of significant coverage of the subject in Welsh (Llanelli Star, South Wales Echo) and other (Liverpool Echo, Aberdeen Evening Express) papers, but a lot of it is hidden behind a paywall. If I can get access to these papers later in the week I'll assess the coverage and update my vote; if anyone else has access to them it may be worth a look. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 18:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Registering a keep vote in light of the below comment, but will update further if I get granted access to the newspaper archive for the aforementioned articles. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Significant coverage here and although my BNA access has expired, here's a story titled "Top of the World: Marshall James", which is almost certainly sigcov. He was second-best at the world championships! BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a six paragraph article that summarises a six year career really "significant coverage"? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a 300+ word article on the then-second-best darts player in the world, as well as what appears to be a feature on 'Top of the World: Marshall James', count for notability? Of course it does. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep describing him as being the "second-best darts player in the world" and this is just categorically not true. Are you seriously suggesting he was better than Phil Taylor? Two articles do not make significant coverage, especially when one of which you have admitted you have no idea what it even is. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep describing him as being the "second-best darts player in the world" and this is just categorically not true. – I'll admit I'm not super familiar with darts, but didn't James finish as the runner-up at the World Championships? Wouldn't being runner-up at the World Championships be second best in the world? And two articles can absolutely be significant coverage; the general notability guideline says that's all that's required for notability (two pieces of coverage). What do you think the odds are that a story titled, "Top of the World: Marshall James", is not significant coverage? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He finished runner-up at a (not the) World Championship and then proceeded to do absolutely nothing of note ever again. Does a darts player from Llanelli having potentially one article in a Llanelli newspaper, and a six paragraph article on a darts website, really count for notability? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does having significant coverage from two independent outlets for a runner-up at a World Darts Championship count for notability? Absolutely if you go by GNG, which only requires two significant sources. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, to keep up-to-date. That's one "significant" source. And one source you freely admit you haven't read. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We're allowed to use common sense. The odds that both the 'Top of the World' source is insignificant and that there's no further coverage of him anywhere is incredibly small, especially given that Ser! has found paywalled articles in four additional newspapers. That you're unable to answer whether you've done any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all for over one hundred darts articles you've rapidly nominated or proposed for deletion is concerning as well. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice personal attack there. Not content with doing it on my own talk page you now choose to do it here too! All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 01:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pointing out that you've refused on three occasions to answer the basic question of whether or not you've done a BEFORE search is not a personal attack... BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You assuming that I haven't, and constantly repeating the claim, is a personal attack. What on earth makes you think I haven't? Because you found that the British library has an article in the Llanelli Post about him from 27 years ago? 🤣 All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ItsKesha: What on earth makes you think I haven't? – because I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you responded that the articles are old, and then I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you responded that I need to AGF – and then I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you told me to get off your talk page – and then here you called it a personal attack, and when asked ... you responded that "What on earth makes you think I haven't? 🤣" – this absolute refusal to answer the question while nominating / proposing hundreds of articles for deletion is disruptive. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK 👍 All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 01:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the entirety of the BNA article, content on James bolded:
[D]arts ace Marshall James added another trophy to his impressive collection recently - after winning a world championship. Marshall was a member of the Wales short man squad that won the world championship in Perth, Sydney, recently. Another player from the area Eric Burden was also in the side with the others being Sean Palfrey of Newport and Martin Phillips from North Wales. With 35 countries taking part Wales beat a star studded England side in final by nine legs to six. Wales came away with three gold medals and one bronze. Marshall lost in the semi-final of the Embassy Gold Cup singles on Saturday to world number 1 Mervin King 2-1. Another Welsh player Shaun [sic] Palfrey went on to take the title beating King 2-0 in the final. Marshall was recognized for his achievement this week when he was chosen as winner of the Walter Hughes Cup, one of the Brin Isaac Memorial Fund awards.

I'm not convinced ~4 sentences in an un-bylined hyper-local blurb announcing his darts competition results for that week counts toward GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 18:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - My main concern here is that DartsNews is not obviously a reliable source and some work needs to be done to establish whether it is or isn't. My real sticking point on any bio article is "can we write a reliably-sourced encyclopaedia article, and not simply a database-entry, about the subject", and if Dartsnews is reliable then probably we can. BeanieFan11 - any views on this? FOARP (talk) 10:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I really need to figure out how to get re-subscribed to the BNA; there appeared to be a decent bit of coverage there (highly likely enough to write a reliably-sourced encyclopaedia article, and not simply a database-entry, about the subject, I'd say)... As for Dartsnews, they appear to have an editing staff. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep - Mostly just on AGF, give-keep-a-chance grounds. DartsNews gives sigcov but feels like a peripheral source even if it is a WP:NEWSORG. There is no BIO equivalent of WP:AUD and local coverage shouldn't be excluded entirely, so I see no reason to dismiss coverage just because it was in a Llanelli newspaper, but it is also borderline for WP:SIGCOV. The real question for me is "can we have an article that isn't just sports-stats", and we just about can. Since the internet archive is now working again (albeit slow) I did a little search there and I see that, except for mentioning him a couple of times when discussing other players, he isn't listed in this book about the top 50 darts players, so I think that safely answers the question of how great this guy was. FOARP (talk) 22:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: There's a Welsh rugby player with the same name... I don't see anything about a darts player. The few sources given in the comments above aren't extensive coverage. I don't think we have enough to use for an article. Oaktree b (talk) 02:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right, a follow-up on these sources: I've found a good few articles about him in Welsh newspapers - South Wales Echo, Llanelli Star, longer piece in the Llanelli Star about subject, coverage of him being fined as a pub landlord - not really related to darts but it does describe him reaching "national fame" and it's hard to think a random unnotable would get this exact coverage, article in same paper about him getting a new manager, South Wales Evening Post covering a match he played in (more than WP:ROUTINE as it goes in more depth than just the results and interviews the subject), further coverage in same paper of his World Championship run, and then a few profiles/further mentions in the context of his time playing in the World Championships. Add to that the DartsNews article above and I think there's well enough coverage to justify us having an article on a former world championship runner up. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 09:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Music & the Spoken Word broadcasts

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Unreferenced list of unclear utility. This is an episode list of a radio and television music performance show in which the Mormon Tabernacle Choir (always the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, never anybody else) performs religious music along with an inspirational/religious sermon -- but this list just goes "broadcast number, date, recording location, title of sermon, production code, the end", with many entries not even containing all of those details, and right across the board even the recording location is always one or the other of two facilities in Salt Lake City, and never anywhere else.
There's no information at all that would actually be useful, such as the titles of any specific songs that were performed in the episode or a detailed summary of the sermon's theme — so there's effectively nothing of any serious substance said about any of the episodes to differentiate one from another. All of which renders it into a list of meaningless and trivial information, and it's also completely unreferenced for the purposes of actually verifying even what little information is here.
There's just no value to this without a lot more information about each episode and actual referencing for it. Bearcat (talk) 04:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nallam Venkataramayya

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Last AfD was no consensus. An orphan article created by a single purpose editor. A search for sources yielded nothing in google news. and 1 small mention in google books (3 other hits that I can't verify). Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 04:23, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Passes first criteria of WP:ANYBIO as recipient of the Legion of Honour (highest honor in France equivalent to the Order of the British Empire in the UK or the Congressional Gold Medal in the United States).4meter4 (talk) 04:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vine, Indiana

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Another "Baker calls it a village and there was a post office but there's nothing there" spot. Searching turned up nothing but considering I had to add the county just to get rid of the Indiana VINE system, I'm hardly confident. Mangoe (talk) 03:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:GEOLAND as a formerly populated place.4meter4 (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Leaning delete, as it is not clear that there is evidence of such a place ever having existed. If it did, then the location is now subsumed in Attica, Indiana (which is the city address given for the cemetery now located at the geographic coordinates given for Vine). BD2412 T 03:50, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete due to WP:V problems. Where does it say it was a populated place? Geschichte (talk) 10:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IWI Galil Sniper

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I previously redirected the page to IMI Galil based on NPP guidelines, but the creator has expressed some concerns. I still think it’s just a variant of the Galil and doesn’t need its own page. WP:REDUNDANTFORK Charlie (talk) 03:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to IMI Galil#Variants#Galil Sniper. Seems like this weapon is already covered in that article under its own subheading.4meter4 (talk) 03:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to or merge with IMI Galil. I know nothing about these weapons, and maybe don't need to. The older (2002) IMI Galil has 20069 characters (3284 words) "readable prose size" and 77 sources. The newer (2024) IWI Galil Sniper has 1736 characters (292 words) "readable prose size" and only two sources, both of which are in the lead. Assuming the 2024 IWI Galil Sniper is accurate in content and sourcing, redirect to, or merge into, the 2002 IMI Galil. — Maile (talk) 04:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. I am the topic creator, and before I explain why this topic should be kept, I want to thank Charlie for initiating this AfD proposal to determine whether there is a consensus to delete this topic. Regarding this thread, the IWI Galil Sniper is based on the IMI Galil#Galil ARM variation which itself is a variation of the IMI Galil. The IMI Galil is a 5.56×45mm NATO and 7.62×51mm NATO assault rifle, whereas the IWI Galil Sniper serves a completely different combat role as a 7.62×51mm NATO sniper rifle. Since the IWI Galil Sniper fulfills a distinct role, there is encyclopedic value in having a dedicated topic for it, similar to the treatment in Galil Sniper[he], and that's why I translated it into the English Wikipedia, adhering to the guidelines outlined in WP:Translation (I'm also registered in WP:TRLA). IdanST (talk) 09:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Special Assistance Resource Teacher

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Renominating as last AfD was no consensus. No significant coverage in gnews, gbooks and Australian database Trove. Most of the sources are primary like minister's announcements and government sources. LibStar (talk) 22:47, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. In addition to the offline sources in the article and the additional materials provided in the first AFD, there is some significant coverage in this journal article: [9]. I'm also seeing a bunch of Australian education journals and magazines covering the topic in 1980s publications in google books, but they are only available in snippet view. From what I have been able to find, this seems like it was a major education initiative in the 1980s in Australia with a thousand teaching positions created under this title and an associated training program in order to work in that position. Seems like a notable topic.4meter4 (talk) 03:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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High Commission of Malaysia, London

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Article based on a primary source and directory listing. No third party coverage to meet WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 22:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:GNG. Diplomatic premises are rarely individually notable. AusLondonder (talk) 12:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of diplomatic missions in London#Embassies and High Commissions in London where it is mentioned, as has been done for every other non-notable embassy and high commission in London brought to AfD or PROD. Thryduulf (talk) 14:51, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Malaysia–United Kingdom relations. @Thryduulf the embassy is also on the List of diplomatic missions of Malaysia. I think we could actually save all the content on the relations page as a merge target which would be better than redirecting to one of several possible list pages. 4meter4 (talk) 03:29, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of Malaysia, The Hague

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Based on primary sources. A google news search only yields the primary source of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Malaysia. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 22:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to Malaysia–Netherlands relations#Diplomacy per WP:ATD. The Embassy would reasonably be covered in that article.4meter4 (talk) 03:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge as above, the usual solution for articles on non-notable embassies. Mangoe (talk) 03:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Go-back

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Unsourced since creation in 2006. This is a WP:DICDEF/neologism issue; I don't see any reasonable way to expand this beyond a dicdef. Hog Farm _Talk 02:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I wonder if this can be merged (or redirected) somewhere. BD2412 T 03:32, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV. I don't doubt this is a widely used slang term in retail for loose merchandise. Unfortunately, it isn't one that is covered in any reliable sources that I can find. Even if we found a redirect or merge target, I don't think there is anything here worth saving. On a side note, I did find this Glossary of Purchasing and Supply Chain Management and this book had a Short Retail Glossary inside it. If we were to cover this it would be within a Glossary of retail terminology page because we can include dic-def topics on those pages per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Glossaries. Best.4meter4 (talk) 04:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PageRank algorithm in biochemistry

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Most of the content on this page is redundant to material on PageRank, including a confusing and incomplete explanation of how PageRank works. It also hasn't had any meaningful updates since 2014. I get the impression that some people suggested applying PageRank to biochemistry but it wasn't widely accepted. I also question if the original page creator, which has only edited this article, was associated with any authors of the referenced papers.

I don't think the potential applications of PageRank to biochemistry are notable enough for its own page. I did suggest a merge at Talk:PageRank § Merge PageRank algorithm in biochemistry but it was inconclusive and somebody suggested I AfD it instead, so here we are. Apocheir (talk) 02:05, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep A basic google search has a large number of scholarly publications on the applications of the PageRank algorithm that are specific to biochemistry. It clearly is a topic that passes WP:SIGCOV. Any issues of redundancy or poor explanation can be solved through editing, but I definitely think that it is a reasonable WP:Content fork in this instance.4meter4 (talk) 04:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per TNT anyway. Most of the references don't refer to PageRank or are deceased. The article as it stands is a barely-comprehensible summary of a single, very narrow application within biochemistry, and doesn't fulfill the promise of its title. It's possible someone could write an article based on 4meter4's search, but they'd have to start from scratch and almost nothing in the existing article would be of any use to them. This is a classic example of the Wikipedia articlee driven by someone's understandable excitement about a single primary literature reference. Elemimele (talk) 10:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Most of the sources I could find are primary, and all sources cited in the article are either primary or irrelevant (except ref. 4), mostly dating from right before this article's creation. There is no WP:LASTING coverage that we would expect from a notable topic; like Elemimele said, all signs point to someone creating an article about a topic they thought would turn out to be important, only to abandon it. People think up new computational tricks every single day, and many of them end up published; most are forgotten as technology and data evolve. We don't need to immortalize them all. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:10, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rural tourism of Paraguay

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Only 1 source in 16 years of article existence. Anything relevant can be put into Tourism in Paraguay. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 01:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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delete If nothing else, it reads like a travel guide, not an encyclopedia article. Mangoe (talk) 03:35, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Selective merge to Tourism in Paraguay per WP:ATD. I'm seeing travel guides for Paraguay name dropping the term (one example [10]), and even an encyclopedia in Paraguay briefly saying it is an important part of the country's economy in certain places (see [11]) but without elaborating. It's clearly a topic that could be covered, but might be better done in the parent article.4meter4 (talk) 04:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Tourism in Paraguay as suggested by 4meter4 and nom. My initial impression was that it was salvageable with sourcing, but it isn't the case. Coeusin (talk) 05:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Farid Azmi

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Played a total of 11 minutes in Malaysia's top tier football league. BEFORE search shows nothing. Does not pass WP:GNG. Kline • talk • contribs 01:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 04:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, does not present a credible claim to significance or notability. Geschichte (talk) 10:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn't pass any notability guidelines. Mekomo (talk) 10:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zazrir Naim

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Played a total of 103 minutes in the top tier of Malaysia football over 3 years. A check for sources found 2 articles total, only mentioning him in passing mention. Does not pass WP:GNG. Kline • talk • contribs 00:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 04:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Doesn't pass WP:SPORTSBASIC or WP:GNG. Mekomo (talk) 10:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MotaWord

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No indication of notability per WP:NCORP. All sources found are press releases or clearly unreliable, and additional searching on the topic found nothing that shows clear notability. Cutlass ^Ciera 00:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:ORGCRIT. Not finding any significant independent coverage on this company. If anyone can, ping me.4meter4 (talk) 04:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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delete, no reliable independent sources to prove company's notability. James Tensky (talk) 09:48, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:NORG guidelines. Some of the sources are primary and the two that are academic work are not enough to pass notability. Mekomo (talk) 10:58, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moroccan General Labour Union

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Fails WP:GNG/WP:NPROFIT. Cannot find any sourcing that confirms the existence of this trade union other than Facebook. Appears to be a single person as acting as a union. Referred to in a number of locations as "Union générale marocaine du travail" (for example, this Danish trade union report on Morocco, but which cites French Wikipedia as source). I also see some reports referencing the French name, but this has been confused with the long establised UGTM (Union générale des travailleurs du Maroc). I've not been able to do an extensive search in Arabic, but French and English draw blanks. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:39, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Does the organization possibly have a foreign language name(s) that it uses? There are many languages spoken in Morroco with English not being the predominant language. My guess is that locating sources would be under a foreign language title...4meter4 (talk) 04:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Trivitron Health Care

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Draft was declined [12] multiple times but still moved into mainspace.

Unclear if there's enough for WP:NCORP. KH-1 (talk) 00:25, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:SIGCOV/WP:NCORP from the sources in the article.4meter4 (talk) 04:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. The sources in article are loud and clear that this fails WP:NORG. All primary sources, not a single secondary source in it. Mekomo (talk) 11:04, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Steve Raw

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:21, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete He gets some passing mentions in a book on USA Darts, but not WP:SIGCOV. All I found outside of google books was hits on darts fan pages. Fails WP:BASIC.4meter4 (talk) 04:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Shaun Narain

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:20, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC. He gets some passing mentions in a darts book by Nigel Boeg, and has the standard pages on DartsWDF and mastercaller (none of which can be used towards notability) but that is about it.4meter4 (talk) 04:59, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Geoff Wylie

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. There is some nice personal content on Wylie in Bobby George's biography because they are friends, but this really can't be used towards WP:SIGCOV due to the nature of the material. Otherwise not really finding anything other than the standard sports statics stuff. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 05:08, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Graham Filby

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I was unable to locate any WP:SIGCOV. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 05:11, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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